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Site Goals... 11 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Grease Hybrid is located near Austin, Texas and has been formed to become a solid resource for information and products. Here are some simple goals for the site:

  • Give users a real time community. Forums are nice, but real time chat is even better. Having the ability to jump in a chat room and instant message with others with the same interest builds a stronger community.

  • Provide a comprehensive list of how-to articles. While a lot of information is at hand, thanks to search engines like google, I've spent countless hours scouring through forum posts; I hope to minimize that for you.

  • Give users a voice in the services offered. Need to sell a part? Should we add an auction mechanism to the site so you can? Let me know and I will investigate what it takes to do it. This site is for US not me, so I want it to be useful for everyone.

  • Give users a space to discuss their lessons learned (forums) and show off their conversion pictures (gallery)

  • Provide products cheaper than everyone else. When I did my conversion, I paid close to retail for most of my products. If buying online, there is no reason why this should have happened. I will do my absolute best to charge a less expensive price for our products!


WVO and SVO conversions are really something to be excited about. This last weekend I did a talk to my son's boy scout troop. While most parents were immediately engaged, so were the kids. A lot of kids normally don't care, but showing them how used, gross fryer grease powers my car intrigued them. Maybe it will be enough to inspire them to look at things just a little different and say "what if..." a little more often.

Please enjoy the site and let me know what you think.
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Well I am new to WVO and talking on forums; here goes! I have located a source for WVO have picked up my first 7 gallons or so of WVO. I also requested the original containers the VO came in. I have found ready the containers that tthe source is using hydrogenated soyben oil. Do I need to look for another source? The 7 gallons I have has been settling for two weeks now and should I filter it or disgard the 7 gallons? Sorry if I did not stay true to the goal topic! Thanks for any help you can give.

pmarquis51 '82 300SD in the planned conversion stage!
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
pmarquis51, some people put a lot of thought behind what goes in the tank; and rightfully so. Unfortunately I'm not a chemist, but I can certainly tell you what I do:

1. I filter to 5 microns using a X100B filter from FSI (http://www.fsifilters.com/pdfs/lit_x100.pdf) into a "clean" drum. I used to gravity feed, but I couldn't stand the long and often messy process. For me it was worth the cost.
2. To dewater (after filtering), I let the "clean" oil sit for quite a while, while it waits for use. I regularly throw the drum heater on the insulated drum for a couple days at 250-300 degrees.

***This probably is not enough*** I am working on improving this with a more controlled process and pan testing to validate what I do -- but haven't done it yet. If I were to spend money to dewater, I would consider googling dana scott. He seems to really know the ins and out of the processing and has plans for a vacuum dewatering system.

I have also attempted to dewater by sticking a hot water heater element in 1" pipe and pumping oil through it. I may revisit this as well but the element I was using got it way too hot.

So what does this do for you? Not much, but if I had the oil in my possession and could filter it, settle it and heat it up to aide in separation, I would use it -- but thats me.
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
Thanks Rodney
Do you have any more information on Dana Scott? I did google him and there must be 20 pages on a Dana Scot who is a professor of mathematics at Carnegie Mellon University.
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
It's Linscott. I was wrong. Check out http://vegoilconversions.netfirms.com/

Again, I don't know Dana but he seems very knowledgeable.
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0  
Rodney
Thanks for the update on Dana.
I have now been hand pouring and filtering my first seven gallons of fryer oil. My first step was let it set for three weeks. I than doubled _layer_ed aluminum screening, with a double _layer_ of tee shirt; into a 5 gallon bucket. That took two evenings.
My next step was to pour from the five gallon bucket through four _layer_s of nylon stockings, into the original oil container. That took all of two hours with all the clean up. I now have my first four gallons of oil I will now put through a 25 micron sock filter and than pump through my 10 micron Golden Rod filter into a 5 micron sock filter.

I have visited FSI’s web site. I noticed the housing has 2” pipe openings. Would you post pictures of your set up?

Thanks

Still gravity feed in Stuart, FL

pmarquis51
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0  
I'd be happy to take some pics. Probably wont get to it until tonight or tomorrow night.

I go through about a drum a month, so I usually do all the processing at once. I only hook up the filter during the processing, but can snap some pictures and explain how I hook it up. The 2" opening has fittings in it, taking it down to 1", the size of the tube I use for oil transfer
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0  
Here is the pic of most of the processing equipment I'm using. On the left is the "dirty" drum. When it gets near full, I will pump it through the X100B into the clean drum for 5 micron oil. It literally only takes a minute or two. I do not leave the filter hooked up all the time. The pump is from northern tool and is a simple diesel transfer pump ... works fine. You will see that there is a drum heater on the _base_ of the drum on the right. I heat up the drum and leave it on several days at a time to separate it out. Right now I suck oil from the top and need to make a drum with a drain installed on it so I can let water out

Like I said, I am still working on the dewatering solution. Hope this helps.
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0  
Rodney

Great little set up. Two more questions.

1) Do you just go from dirty collected oil to 5 micron with no step down filtering?
2) Have you ever put a thermometer in the black dirt oil just letting it set in the sun to see how warm it gets?

I am thinking South FL it gets pretty sunny and warm even in February.

Thanks for the pic!
 
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Re:Site Goals... 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0  
1. The filter really kicks a**. I use to gravity feed and would get so frustrated. I couldnt tell if the filter bags were clogged, the oil was too dirty, or if I was just expecting too much (impatient). Now I dont have to worry about it. I go from the dirty drum straight to 5 microns in one pass. I *should* be able to do about 200 gallons through each bag. The filter cost more up front, but I will maximize the use of the bags, keep my garage floor and driveway a LOT cleaner, and save a heck of a lot of time.

2. All of my equipment and oil is in the garage. When I heat up the drum I will crack the garage door to get some air circulation, but generally its not in the sun, thus I have no idea how hot it would get on its own. I still like the idea of pumping it through 1" pipe with a water heater element in it. This seems like it would be faster and better since you could force the fluid at the bottom of the drum through the heater. I started this but my kids were to "hands on" and safety became a concern for me.
 
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